Curse

king_trouble · Jul 10, 2009, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Survivor was meant to be a one shot thing per character, the reason for this was to encourage people to not die, if the title was changed to allow consumables ruin the title making it incredibly easy to gain the title. SURVIVOR IS EASIER TODAY COMPARED TO WHEN GW CAME OUT. Take that in mind, if you want to go for survivor, get more health than your other heroes, have your guild menu open to zone out, be in a non melee position, have the highest armor in your group, and lastly but not least use your head.

Agar · Jul 10, 2009, 10:30 PM // 22:30

The LDOA title needs around 720 hours to get. I can believe they havent made it account wide yet...

Hanok Odbrook · Jul 10, 2009, 11:33 PM // 23:33

Ahhh, the subject (and thread) that just can't stay dead - no matter how many times it's beaten by that blood-soaked-with-a-rusted-nail stick.

For the sake of not repeating my previous posts (just check the last few pages):
1 - Anet already stated they cannot reset character deaths. Based on the game code, it would royally F-up a lot of stuff.

2 - Once again, every one completely ignores the fact that these two titles were specially created to signify two unique accomplishments in the game - regardless on your own personal opinion of the playstyle or requirements needed to get them.

3 - A much simpler solution than changing either LS and/or LDoA is to create two new titles in the same vein, but make them mutually exclusive with the older titles.

Hanok Odbrook

Bringer of Carling · Jul 11, 2009, 12:54 PM // 12:54

This is a difficult topic, the Survivor Title should not be achievable past death but when you create your first character, you often do not know about all the titles, I'd say the bests idea would be to create a title mutually exclusive with survivor which resets with every death, the Title would require 3 million xp without a death but cannot be achieved by Survivor's. This would give older characters a chance and the title would be separate to the Survivor title but similar. I have 1 Legendary Survivor and 3 on the way to it but would like an opportunity to get the Title on my main character.

ShattuckEW · Jul 11, 2009, 01:30 PM // 13:30

Here is my take on it. I see the original intent of Survivors: to prove that someone had real skill and played a huge chunk of the game without dying. However:

1) With EotN and the Punchout quest, Survivors is a joke. There are literally thousands of Legendary Survivors now because of it, and barring lag or idiocy it is literally impossible to mess this title up. There is no integrity left in this title to uphold.

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2) There are so many things that can screw up a Survivor that are beyond the players control, lag spikes being the predominant factor right now. A while back it was a rare occurrence, but the latency issues and constant spikes / disconnects now are unacceptable and a player should not be punished for this. Then you have people that are just assholes in the game who try to purposefully sabotage your titles. I realize there is no possible way to determine if these were the cause of death or not, which leads to my proposed solution:

Why not simply allow the title to reset after a death, requiring the same amount of experience to achieve? If anything this would make the title more challenging, since once you are lvl 20 the experience you get from regular enemies is pathetic, and as you complete quests and missions there are fewer and fewer methods of getting solid experience points. This means that you are still punished for dying by making the title harder to achieve the next time around (and thus requiring a larger time investment) without permanently punishing a player for something that is more often than not out of their control. On top of it, this would not sully the already pathetic reputation of this title. Personally my perfect solution would be to make the title resettable, but make quests like Punchout one time only per difficulty. These quests serve no purpose other than gaining huge experience fast, and Anet must have known they would be abused like this. I am all for being able to grind the title out still through traditional means, but after achieving Legendary Survivor the hard way on my first character after hundreds of hours of stress and careful planning, seeing anyone with two braincells to rub together getting it in literally a day is just sad. Why even bother with the title at this point? There is no prestige left in obtaining it.

Hanok Odbrook · Jul 11, 2009, 03:07 PM // 15:07

You pretty much just answered yourself in your own post:

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